tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4483475903880351456.post3996666003284169236..comments2023-04-11T08:40:43.312-04:00Comments on Tears to Joy: Suicide: To Heaven or To Hell?Nataliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00857575002327636728noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4483475903880351456.post-48082272930471203772011-02-03T20:32:07.814-05:002011-02-03T20:32:07.814-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Covnitkepr1https://www.blogger.com/profile/14155059748601952927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4483475903880351456.post-52824440978258007822011-01-31T20:39:57.403-05:002011-01-31T20:39:57.403-05:00Natalie,
Thanks for sharing on this topic that nee...Natalie,<br />Thanks for sharing on this topic that needs clarification, understanding & talked about openly-in the light. :) I also appreciate your research. <br /><br />I appreciate the other comments too. Michele addressed a question I had, not belonging to a Catholic Church. If more Wisdom can be shared on this topic of Suicide & Heaven-vs-Hell amongst our Christian Family more Light will be shed on too many who 'FEEL' alone in the dark. <br /><br />Also- a bit off topic but Natalie, when you spoke of people telling you "..." after Michael' death to comfort you - this statement hit home for me. After an accident & brain injury, my family & I were told 'comforting things' based on misunderstanding of a different Biblical teaching which was actually ended up being very hurtful. There are very loving & well-meaning people who speak from misunderstanding &/or lack of knowledge trying to simply & very sincerely comfort another Brother or Sister. Bless them yet, sharing about our tesimonies & expertise is a great way for us to learn how to speak The Truth in Love, Accuratly. Thanks again.<br /><br />Be Encouraged & Have a JOY-Full Day! <br />Love Ya! :)Susie Cantrell ~ Mountain Ministryhttp://susiemm413.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4483475903880351456.post-4116631810420787412011-01-31T18:59:01.111-05:002011-01-31T18:59:01.111-05:00Michelle,
I should have clarified that these were...Michelle,<br /><br />I should have clarified that these were ancient teachings. The book, Finding Your Way After the Suicide of Someone You Love by David Biebel and Suzanne Foster is where I found this information. <br /><br />I know many Catholics who do not agree with this ancient teaching and I'm glad to hear that the current Catechism does not teach this.<br /><br />I know from my own experience, after Michael died, many told me that my husband was in hell and that they would pray and beg God to let him out. <br /><br />There is no doubt in my mind that Michael is in heaven and I just want to counter this belief. I mean no disrespect to the Catholic Church.Nataliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00857575002327636728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4483475903880351456.post-26896206632019105522011-01-31T17:43:51.224-05:002011-01-31T17:43:51.224-05:00Thank you, Natalie, for your clear explanation...a...Thank you, Natalie, for your clear explanation...and for the courage to speak openly and honestly about suicide. Your Michael loved Jesus boldly and deeply, and I love imagining his joy and laughter in heaven.Janet Speerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10329143483376748590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4483475903880351456.post-48965865420960055532011-01-31T16:41:55.636-05:002011-01-31T16:41:55.636-05:00Very well put. I have been thinking about and pra...Very well put. I have been thinking about and praying for you this past week, by the way.Brandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01837340615327612493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4483475903880351456.post-309637810127378932011-01-31T16:24:08.392-05:002011-01-31T16:24:08.392-05:00Natalie,
(this is Michele Bruce, BTW)
I know you ...Natalie,<br />(this is Michele Bruce, BTW) <br />I know you want your posts to be as accurate as possible, so I wanted to let you know that is not a teaching of the Catholic Church. By that reasoning, anyone who died suddenly would go to Hell which is certainly not a Catholic teaching. Perhaps the confusion arose because it was believed that suicide was giving in to despair, and there was not time to repent, which is quite different from confession.<br /><br />The Catechism of the Catholic Church (official teaching)also states in 2282 that "grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide."<br />and in 2283 "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance."the striped rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13971373349800972797noreply@blogger.com